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  • 1. ubi dubium  |  January 29, 2013 at 7:45 am

    That’s a great idea! I’m not on Facebook, but it will still help people find other deconverts, so I’m all for it. Looking forward to seeing the redesign.

  • 2. The de-Convert  |  January 29, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Thanks ubi. Hope all is well.

  • 3. ubi dubium  |  January 29, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    All is well, and i’ve missed you on this blog. I’ve started blogging on my own, now.

  • 4. Scott  |  February 9, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    Dear De-Convert,
    I just read one of your posts stating that you did not know of any evidence in archaelogy supporting the Jews and their Exodus. I am glad to share some cold hard archaelogical facts that prove the 10 plagues. Additionally I recommend a book by the Brithish Museum – “The BIble and the British Museum.” The mountain of archaeological evidence is so great they needed an entire volume to document it. If you wnat to solve that nagging in your soul – “What if I am wrong and the Bible is right”, then I suggest for you to read the Gospel of John. The God you deny, loves you so much He gave you a free will to believe or not believe in Him.
    If you leave this post up, then I will know you are sincere in your efforts to know truth. If not, well then, you’re wasting your time and everyone elses.
    Enjoy having your eyes open to a secular eye witness to the 10 plagues. Scott
    Bible Critics Answered
    Dr. Philip Khuri Hitti, Professor of Semitic Literature, Princeton University, says: “Other than Biblical, there is no record of Jewish enslavement in Egypt.”

    Mr. Joseph B. Alexander, Secretary of the Jewish Theological Seminary in New York, states that “there is no definite evidence outside of the Bible regarding the sojourn of the Israelites in Egypt.”

    “After reading the Biblical narrative of the exodus of the Children of Israel from Egypt, there is one consolation: THE STORY IS NOT TRUE. THE EVENTS RELATED NEVER TOOK PLACE! The entire story is a monstrous fabrication imposed upon an ignorant and superstitious people, and deserves exposure and the severest condemnation (atheist website).

    Ipuwer Papyrus – An Egyptian Account of the Ten Plagues

    “The Ten Plagues – Live From Egypt”
    by Rabbi Mordechai Becher
    In the early 19th Century a papyrus, dating from the end of the Middle Kingdom, was found in Egypt. It was taken to the Leiden Museum in Holland and interpreted by A.H. Gardiner in 1909. The complete papyrus can be found in the book Admonitions of an Egyptian from a heiratic papyrus in Leiden. The papyrus describes violent upheavals in Egypt, starvation, drought, escape of slaves (with the wealth of the Egyptians), and death throughout the land. The papyrus was written by an Egyptian named Ipuwer and appears to be an eyewitness account of the effects of the Exodus plagues from the perspective of an average Egyptian. Below are excerpts from the papyrus together with their parallels in the Book of Exodus. (For a lengthier discussion of the papyrus and the historical background of the Exodus, see Jewish Action, Spring 1995, article by Brad Aaronson, entitled When Was the Exodus? )
    2:5-6 Plague is throughout the land.
    Blood is everywhere.
    2:10 The river is blood.
    2:10 Men shrink from tasting – human beings, and thirst after water
    3:10-13 That is our water! That is our happiness! What shall we do in respect thereof? All is ruin. 7:20 …all the waters of the river were turned to blood.
    7:21 …there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt …and the river stank.
    7:24 And all the Egyptians dug around the river for water to drink; for they could not drink of the water of the river.
    2:10 Forsooth, gates, columns and walls are consumed by fire.
    10:3-6 Lower Egypt weeps… The entire palace is without its revenues. To it belong [by right] wheat and barley, geese and fish
    6:3 Forsooth, grain has perished on every side.
    5:12 Forsooth, that has perished which was yesterday seen. The land is left over to its weariness like the cutting of flax. 9:23-24 …and the fire ran along the ground… there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous.
    9:25 …and the hail smote every herb of the field, and broke every tree of the field.
    9:31-32 …and the flax and the barley was smitten; for the barley was in season, and flax was ripe.
    But the wheat and the rye were not smitten; for they were not grown up.
    10:15 …there remained no green things in the trees, or in the herbs of the fields, through all the land of Egypt.
    5:5 All animals, their hearts weep. Cattle moan…
    9:2-3 Behold, cattle are left to stray, and there is none to gather them together. 9:3 …the hand of the Lord is upon thy cattle which is in the field… and there shall be a very grievous sickness.
    9:19 …gather thy cattle, and all that thou hast in the field…
    9:21 And he that did not fear the word of the Lord left his servants and cattle in the field.
    9:11 The land is without light 10:22 And there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt.
    4:3 (5:6) Forsooth, the children of princes are dashed against the walls.
    6:12 Forsooth, the children of princes are cast out in the streets.
    6:3 The prison is ruined.
    2:13 He who places his brother in the ground is everywhere.
    3:14 It is groaning throughout the land, mingled with lamentations 12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the Lord smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive that was in the prison.
    12:30 …there was not a house where there was not one dead.
    12:30 …there was a great cry in Egypt.
    7:1 Behold, the fire has mounted up on high. Its burning goes forth against the enemies of the land. 13:21 … by day in a pillar of cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night.
    3:2 Gold and lapis lazuli, silver and malachite, carnelian and bronze… are fastened on the neck of female slaves. 12:35-36 …and they requested from the Egyptians, silver and gold articles and clothing. And God made the Egyptians favor them and they granted their request. [The Israelites] thus drained Egypt of its wealth.

  • 5. cag  |  February 9, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Scott, quotes from religious fanatics are meaningless to us. This is not a god worshipping site. The fiction of Genesis, such as the earth being formed before the rest of the universe, simply proves that humans were capable of writing fiction thousands of years ago. If someone digs up a comic book 2000 years from now, will they start worshipping Superman?

    All that Ipuwer proves to me is that the bible is not the only fiction that survived for thousands of years. Are we supposed to take Chaucer as historical, or Shakespeare? What about Paul Bunyan? At least the writings of Aesop are identified as fables. The Illiad and Oddysey are recognized as being ancient fiction. If the fiction is in the Torah or the Bible doesn’t matter, it is still fiction. If you believe that the earth took 5 days to create and the rest of the universe 1 day then your ability to reason is damaged beyond repair.

  • 6. Alban  |  February 18, 2013 at 7:39 am

    Scott, the measuring device to determine what is, is not available in reading and in deciphering that reading from that viewpoint. However the ability to recognize and to accept the immeasurable is.

    The water, the blood are figurative to the writer and the reader. Happiness and the river are literal in the original meaning- within people.

    The origin of that frustration and its original description handed down is the same for us now.

    It is, was and will be always self contained. Our race in its arrogance will in some more arrogant domains want to preserve disbelief as well as those who wish to preserve blind or imaginary belief. All you have done is walked into the other side of the same school of thought.

    And now the other side wishes to escape the reality of what may exist independent of agreed upon thinking in order to preserve agreement upon their shared misery… at the lack of evidence of what you and others have ‘agreed’ on in your shared belief.

    Such a titanic battle in conjecture!!!!!!!!!! An expression of futility, drunk with the confidence of righteousness where neither can see within each one what is actually present. Yet each thinks they are right- when right and wrong have never had anything to do with the question of happiness or ‘the river’…or the presence or absence of the divine.

    The question rather, is will you accept its availability, given the choice? Believing it is not LITERALLY available has become common if not sacred ground for both of you. Neither realizes you are joined at the hip while the other less prominent side literally enjoys the presence of what is already within, wincing in your befuddlement/objection amidst the war you engage with each other.

    So yeah, (not you Scott) abandon your website and go find sympathetic like minded people. That will justify your position and hopefully substantiate your righteousness. Then you may continue to pontificate in a perspective that misses what is actually and ultimately obvious. But it will seem convincing.

    What’s that old expression, wherever ego, I go? Try to find at some point, or wish for it, the identity that is complete without the judgement of right and wrong, one where ego is absent in the pursuit.

  • 7. cag  |  February 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Alban, your credibility, while extremely low, went through the floor with the “21 grams” episode. The truth value of your inane utterings have reached zero,

  • 8. Alban  |  February 19, 2013 at 3:44 am

    One judge cannot cement an opinion in a relative domain of weights and measures. A loftier perspective helps. Opinions are like the tides, rising and falling; coming and going, subject to conditions like weather or war and viewed with a ‘corrected’ myopic eye.

    It’s difficult sometimes to separate fact from opinion. It’s much easier as has been pointed out on this site and throughout existence, to make facts work for a desired agenda. Opinions are slanted, so gray is the more accurate color in the domain of belief.

    If we choose to keep judging belief and use slanted facts or even reasonable facts, does that move anyone to consider what could be independant of limitation. (excluding of course, natural law…for the moment)

    A more efficient tact to encouraging real consideration of life’s value with or without divinty, is to articulate individual perception without establishing a pseudo base of correctness. Agreed upon judgement is not applicable in digging up what is or is not truth.

    In spite of a world where many individuals want more than agreement, judgement or opinion, fear and doubt generally work against people looking for more than what’s on the prescribed menu.

    This site is not dedicated to just commiseration or collective denial of environmental or genetic/traditional upbringing with respect to disappointment in God, is it? Big picture individual sovereignity and that resulting thinking seems to be more of a practical benefit, amidst SEEMINGLY naturally deserved criticism and opinion giving religion and adherence to expectations of “God”, much misplaced devotion.

  • 9. atimetorend  |  April 3, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    The thing about a facebook page is the loss of anonymity if one uses their real facebook profile. For me it is too strange a mix of friends and acquaintances to “like” the deconversion page. All that said, I hope the web page here does get re-activated.

  • 10. Alban  |  September 8, 2014 at 2:23 am

    revit, respectfully and out of curiosity as well, to whom are you addressing this suggestion?

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